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Re: PC: Yes, cabin cars on 'passenger' trains---documentation

Hi----Honestly, I have no idea. If you don't mind speculation, I think it unlikely for them to need high-speed trucks given the physical plant of the PC by 1970. I doubt many 'passenger' (read 'mail') trains were going sufficiently fast enough on PC to require them, though I don't know the speed at which HS trucks become necessary for a cab.
Anyone else want to take a shot?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: PC: Yes, cabin cars on 'passenger' trains---documentation

 A quick one here, but would these rider cabs be fitted with extra train lines, or at least high speed trucks?
 For that matter, what WOULD you need to refit a plain cab into a rider cab?
I wanted to ask for the record, and general information.

Patrick Harris <penngulf@comcast.net> wrote:
Because by the end of the 1960s much 'passenger' service was hauling mail. A pair of E7s, 1 baggage car, 3 coaches and twelve mail cars would not be unusual. The cab would be needed to for pick-up and set-off moves for the mail cars.
Or so I would surmise.
Page 104 of Pennsy Diesel Years V. 3 shows a NH cab that made it all the way to Columbus, Oh., as a "rider car on a mail train".
Page 114 of the same book shows a Pennsylvania Ltd. made up of "three Es, four baggage cars of mail and express, two coaches, twelve more cars of mail and express, rider cabin car #4723 {four digit number}, and still another car of mail."
This was in 1970 (the caption says Amtrak was a year away), so it was a PC train. I don't know if PRR pioneered this, or if PC originated it. But there it is, documented and with photo evidence.

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