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Re: PC: Re: white frames and worms

Since NYC only had two U33B's you are either talking about 2858 or 2859.  I have
slides of both of these taken in the early 1970's in full PC paint and neither
has the white frame stripe.  The unit in the Conrail volume showing the white
frame stripe has to be the result of worn off paint.  Most of the ex - NYC
U28B's and U30B's only received repainting once and by the time 1976 came around
the paint jobs were pretty worn, showing the NYC markings and white frame
stripes underneath.  Back then they didn't sand-blast off the older paint but
just repainted over the existing coatings and sometimes the existing dirt.

"Bill K." <pontiac -AT- dreamscape.com> on 05/23/2001 11:12:39 PM

Please respond to penn-central -AT- smellycat.com

To:   penn-central -AT- smellycat.com
cc:    (bcc: Mark Branibar/USA/NA/Praxair)
Subject:  PC: Re: white frames and worms

There's a shot of an ex-NYC U33B in Conrail Volume 1 that made it to Conrail
with the white frame stripe intact; didn't seem to have had any PC woms
either.   Given that Conrail got rid of those pretty early, I doubt it got
painted blue -

Bill K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Harris" <seaboardempire -AT- earthlink.net>
To: <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:32 PM
Subject: PC: white frames and worms

>   In PC power, I found:
> Page 52-U30B #2855, NYC # on cab, black paint peeling off white sill and
> cigar band on cab, very large worms on nose
> Page 121 GP9 #5825 PC name on long hood, worms on nose light sill. Bought
> second-hand from C&O, operating on Canada Southern. Cannot tell if sill is
> white or if the loco is still blue/yellow with PC stencils replacing the
> (08-72).
> Page 132 Rio Grande F units is full Rio Grande with worm logos simply
> stenciled in on flanks and nose, white #721 in standard PC location at
> of hood. (just tossing that in),
> Page 180 X-NH GP9 #7555, worms on nose, white # on cab sub-base, orange
> still in place, no other markings, 1971.
> Page 208 X-NYC SW8 units with white sill #8634 NYC lettering and paint, no
> PC markings; #8613 with tiny PC worm logo, NYC numbers, ratty white sill.
> Page 212 X-NYC SW7s #8865 and #8883 both have PC markings, full white
> Page 217 X-NH SW1200 #9182, white sill, small worm logo and PC number on
> side, back of cab still red/orange, back of cab sub-base painted white.
> Page 218 X-IHB Sw1500 #9227, full PC switcher scheme, white sill.
> It appears that white side sills were uncommon, but not rare, for
> It appears that white sills on road units (GP40, U30B) were more from poor
> paint jobs or benign neglect in repainting from NYC schemes. This is just
> 2 cents worth. Hope it helps.
> Patrick
> seaboardempire -AT- earthlink.net

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