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Re: PC: PC Alco question
- Subject: Re: PC: PC Alco question
- From: "ERIE LACKAWANNA SD45-2" <ERIE-LACKAWANNA@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:16:20 -0500
Thank you Bob. Very informative
RI also had either 4500 or 4700 series SD40-2's. Not sure if these numbers
came from the cancelled U33B's
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Holzweiss" <robert.holzweiss -AT- nara.gov>
To: <penn-central -AT- smellycat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: PC: PC Alco question
> ERIE-LACKAWANNA -AT- prodigy.net wrote:
> What were the numbers to be for the Nine PC SD45's and what numbers did
they become under SP? Are they still running today on UP?
> Don't know what #'s PC would have assigned. 6240-6248 perhaps? After the
five SD45's PC added to the roster.
> Canceled PC order to SP (SSW) as follows
> SSW 9060 Retired and sold 11/87 to LMC, Richmond, CA, scrapped
> SSW 9061 Retired and sold 3/88 to Southwest Car Parts, Venus, TX,
> SSW 9062 Retired 9/85 and rebuilt to SD45R and re# 7553, wrecked at
> Haymond, TX 7/94, scrapped.
> SSW 9063 Retired 4/73, wrecked 4/2/73 at El Monte, CA, scrapped
> 5/3/73 by Chrome Crankshaft.
> SSW 9064 Retired 9/85 and rebuilt to SD45R and re# 7554, survived to
> UP merger 1996, retired and sold by 1997.
> SSW 9065 Retired and sold 8/88 to LMC, Richmond, CA, scrapped
> SSW 9066 Retired and sold 11/87 to LMC, Richmond, CA, scrapped SSW 9067
Retired and sold 8/88 to LMC, Richmond, CA, scrapped SSW 9068 Retired
1990, sold to Helm
> Also what were (proposed) RI numbers for the 15 U33B's?
> PC 2956, [CRI&P 4510]
> PC 2957, [CRI&P 4511]
> PC 2958, [CRI&P 4512]
> PC 2959, [CRI&P 4513]
> PC 2960, [CRI&P 4514]
> PC 2961, [CRI&P 4515]
> PC 2962, [CRI&P 4516]
> PC 2963, [CRI&P 4517]
> PC 2964, [CRI&P 4518]
> PC 2965, [CRI&P 4519]
> PC 2966, [CRI&P 4520]
> PC 2967, [CRI&P 4521]
> PC 2968, [CRI&P 4522]
> PC 2969, [CRI&P 4523]
> PC 2970, [CRI&P 4524]
> Ironically, RI had to cancel the order because it could not come up with
> Incidently, there is a reason PC stopped purchasing locomotives in 1973.
On January 2, 1974, Nixon signed the 3R Act initiating the public sector
solution to the PC (and other northeastern railroads) bankruptcy. PC
creditors absolutely demanded that trustees stop dissipating PC assets
through loco purchases since a public sector solution (however undefined)
seemed in the cards.
> As many listers probably know, there is a very specific reason PC trustees
purchased GP-38's and GP-38-2's in such great quantities. As Yanosey says,
"easy on the gas and maintenance with no frills." They could also be used
in almost every conceivable service. Higher horsepower models were
inflexible for yard and branch line service with light (or poorly
maintained) track, and yard models had a difficult time on the road in the
PC's mountainous areas. The 38 and 38-2 were the best of both worlds for a
railroad that had no money and worn out equipment. Their longevity (and
that of the SD40's and GP40's for that matter) is a testament to the fine
engineering of the EMD folks.
> Bob Holzweiss
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