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PC: Re: PC Color Guide
- Subject: PC: Re: PC Color Guide
- From: BGXX32A@xxxxxxxxxxx (MR PETER A KING)
- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:01:00, -0500
Wait a minute, there's a lot of inconsistency here:
>The MTA did not fund PC operations at the time the PC 1000 and 1100
>series MU's were repainted and lettered PC
Maybe they didn't fund operations, but the DID provide equipment. MTA
owned and provided equipment to PC as early as July, 1970.
(Reference: PC Power book, regarding the 'yellowbird' FL9s'.) Also,
the 1100 MUs were never owned by PC OR NYC. They were owned by the
Port Authority, and leased to the railroad. (Reference: NYC Later
Power by Stauffer. I also recall seeing the lettering near the car
ends noting the lease arrangement.) The Port Authority also later
purchased the 1000 series MUs.
> and thus M prefix meant
>the car was Motorized
Not a prefix, it was under the number. Also, why make the distinction
of 'motorized' when there were no trailers? (Reference: Stauffer book.
> as were RDC's.
PC RDCs did NOT use the 'M' prefix when renumbered to PC numbers.
(Reference: Crouse RDC book.) They used 2 digit numbers with no
prefix. NYC RDCs did use the 'M', a holdover from the doodlebug days.
> Not many MU's were painted and
>lettered PC. Even some PC (NH) "Mut's" and PC MP54's had the small
>"M" under the number and MP54's were not a part of the MTA.
Makes sense to use it on the MP54s, as I recall some were trailers.
> The M
>Prefix was only applied to 100% PC Repaints and not MU's relettered.
>Most NYC MU's were still NEW YORK CENTRAL lettered with PENN applied
>over the NEW YORK name
Don't ever recall seeing that, although I didn't see many MUs in the
early days of the merger. I only recall seeing the full repaints,
complete with PC logos.
> just as DLW MU's had ERIE name ahead of
>LACKAWANNA on DLW MU's.
I'm still unconvinced that it means 'motorized'.
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